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Bananas

2007-01-17 @ 5:19 » Français

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I know, it’s a pointless discussion topic, but I gotta vent. I’m talking about the banana. Well, not that actually, but the question of subsidizing art, and, more broadly, art’s place in society (which was the topic of a French post, a year and a half ago).

It all started with $64,000 given for a banana in the Texas sky, but went well beyond the value of that particular piece. I was talking with two colleagues and they didn’t approve.

Geosychronous banana

For one of them, art has to be sellable, has to have a marketable value. If you paint something, the end goal is for that painting to be sold. She doesn’t make any difference between a craft (artisanat, in French) and art. She cannot conceive that a creation can not be a product. Neither does she believe in any sort of temporary art (installations, Cristo’s work, etc.).

My other colleague goes even further: why should the government subsidize artists? Why should she have to pay for someone who prefers to do art rather than get a “real” job. If they are too lazy to work, she shouldn’t have to pay. Quite the little capitalist. Her argument boils down to:

  • if you don’t use a marketable skill, you’re lazy
  • if I don’t have use for something, government shouldn’t pay for it (so, my taxes shouldn’t pay for roads to places I don’t go).

I tried to point out that, if it weren’t for subsidies, there would be no dancer, painter, signer, sculptor, writer, musician, playwright or poet of note in Quebec. Out market being too small, government has to lend a hand, even if indirectly (e.g., helping distribution channels). Without government help, Quebec wouldn’t have the enviable international cultural reputation it enjoys.

But, of course, such arguments are useless. I didn’t even bother pointing out that, far from being lazy, artists tend to be the worst workaholics there are. And with art, it doesn’t end at 5 p.m. It’s always there, in the back of your mind, gnawing. It’s like me saying she is lazy because she took a year-long maternity leave (which, incidentally, I helped pay for, eventhough I’m not planning on having any kids). Obviously, she doesn’t know what she’s talking about, doesn’t want to know.

This wouldn’t be so bad if it weren’t for the fact that she is not alone in thinking like that.

And it’s quite near-sighted too. In her own words, you shouldn’t be paid for what you like doing, unless it’s a marketable skill, of course (I get the feeling that for her, art is just a passing fancy, not an urge). Mia fasz? My other colleague used her boyfriend as an example, pointing out that, eventhough music is what he’d like to do, he had to get a real job. But what if he could be paid to be a musician? Wouldn’t he be happier? And wouldn’t that make their relationship more enjoyable, more harmonious? Wouldn’t she, and their kids, be more happy? Can we put a price on happiness?

In a way, we can. When you’re unhappy (in something that takes up most of your waking hours), unfulfilled, you tend to be more stressed and to be at greater risks for heart problems, burn-outs, etc. More traffic accidents too. And self-destructive behaviour. And general societal problems. All of which put quite a load on our health system.

It’d be interesting to see if there is any correlation between art subsidies and health costs (private and public).

And that’s not mentioning the benefits of art itself on people and society…

3 comments to “Bananas”


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    wow, that is quite the post - really got me riled up!
    first of all, that colleague of yours is a close-minded idiot. such foolishness - she might as well just say that art has no value whatsoever to society! has she never seen a painting that took her breath away, or heard a piece of music that cheered her up or made her cry, or a movie she loved? God!
    marketable skills are overrated. they are no more valuable than skills for which people are never paid, like being a good parent or a caring friend. Or making a beautiful piece of art that will never be sold or bought.
    besides that, there has to be a diversity of perspectives in society - just one narrow view really is limiting because it excludes so many people who don’t share that perspective.

    I had the chance to sit in on a Q&A session with a composer this week. IT was really interesting, she had a lot of great things to say about her work and the academy - how academic music composition programs really are taught by a quite narrow group of people, hardly any women, hardly any people of colour, hardly any gay or lesbian people. she saw this as a huge problem. so, even in the art world, it is a problem when only one voice is acknowledged or is producing work. Imagine if we had a society without art at all (or even just art that is ‘marketable’ - whatever the heck that means), and how limited THAT would be!



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    Imagine if we had a society with just art that is ‘marketable’”
    Some would say that (at least in visual arts) it is pretty much the case in the U.S.:
    “I asked him if it might be possible that due to the fact that the U.S. art world is so completely market-driven maybe we who live there have adjusted our definition of what constitutes art according to, well, what is saleable in galleries and at auction. In NY it seems fairly clear that despite the dream that art exhibitions, whether in galleries or in museums, are forums for complicated feelings and for new ideas, they are possibly more like car showrooms, where the latest models are paraded and applauded. (…) If it is state funded it doesn’t necessarily have to be saleable, and therefore what it can be is up for grabs. It becomes completely open — at least open to the extent that some state functionary funds it and isn’t concerned with making a commodity.”

    This is also illustrated in a Simpsons episode.



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    yeah, it seems that is indeed the situation, isn’t it. I think that’s why I l ove graffiti so much.

    I’ve tagged you. This one’s important.


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